Friends and Money: Debt or Relationship Recovery?

December 6, 2018

Backyard Hawk DPP

We've all heard it before. You should not mix business with friends or pleasure, but in most cases it's much easier to say than actually do. We usually enter into these agreements with the hope that the business will go to plan and the friendship will be stronger for it.

After our best intentions, sometimes it does not always go to plan. So what happens when the project ends and the tax invoice have been issued, but months roll by without a payment. All of a sudden, you're in the unfortunate situation where you have to consistently, month after month, ask your friend for payment but they are now avoiding you. You want the money you're entitled to, but you want to salvage the friendship too so what do you do?

Perhaps you should seek the services of a professional debt collector who can mediate the situation. This may seem a little rash to some, but remember money is what makes the world go round and by employing someone else to do your dirty work for you, you'll be able to concentrate on salvaging your relationship.

In choosing a debt collector to pursue payment from your friend there are a few things you should consider.

* Select professional and seek their advice – employing someone that you can trust from a reputable company is important. Remember, this your friend you are dealing with so you want someone who is firm but fair. Explain the situation to them and ask them to provide you with ongoing status reports so you can keep up to date on what is happening.

* Notify your friend's company that you have had to defer all outstanding creditor records to your debt collection agency – explain to him that it is company policy.

* Advise your close mutual friends – spare them all the intricate details, but let them know so that they can support you both and hopefully help you to salvage your friendship. Make a concerted effort not to complain to them about your friend to them – stay positive and advise them once the collection process is all over.

* Give your friend some space during and immediately after the debt collection process, but make sure you make the effort to rebuild the friendship afterwards. Planning a gathering with mutual friends is always a non-invasive approach.

* At the next appropriate time, send them a gift. A small but thoughtful gift at an appropriate time like a birthday, wedding anniversary or a home warm will insist that there are no hard feelings on your end. But remember, it is not appropriate to send them something 'just because' – it may look restricted.

To salvage the relationship it will take some time and some hard work on your part. After all, someone's pride is on the line, but stick with it – business and money was never the starting point of your friendship and it does not have to be the ending of it either. By seeking professional debt recovery advice and appointing them to do handle what is essentially a business decision, you should be able to come away from this paid and unscathed.


  • gibram sanchez laines December 6, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    stock firmware Archer c7 v2??? saludos desde México

  • Rogério Figueiredo December 6, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    I have v2 and don't know how but I install de version 1 firmware and now I can't change to another one help

  • Adas Marcinkevičius December 6, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    Where can i found C8 stock firmware? Because for me not working 5G wifi 🙁

  • Patrick Böhm December 6, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    Tank you very much for this tutorial! In my case i had to connect the GND 2-3 seconds after power on the router. Then it worked :)))

  • jand3rs0n December 6, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    Nice Tutorial

  • Alan Armstrong December 6, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    I have a netgear night hawk r 7000 ,stuck in a boot loop

  • Dwight Campbell December 6, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    The first time I tried this on my C9 6 months ago, I had a defective CP2101 interface and I couldn't get any kind of a connection. I wasn't sure it was defective so I bought a PL2303 based serial interface off of ebay cheap. It came from China so it took quite awhile, but I wasn't in a hurry because I didn't really think it was going to work. I plugged the PL2303 in after verifying the correct pins and it worked likity-split. Thanks for this process. You can chock one more saved router up on your victory list. Appreciated!!

  • Rudi Belt December 6, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    Thanks, I was stuck with an -5533 error when trying to update firmware after recovery procedure. This worked the first time.

  • Michael Sopata December 6, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    Worked great for me. However, my goal, before bricking this router, was to try to get DD-WRT onto the router so I tried to do that again and after first attempt, DD-WRT appeared to be fine except that there was no WDS available in wireless settings within the DD-WRT firmware. So I used this procedure again to recover the router and I went for the latest TPLINK firmware to see if that would solve the problem. TPLINK'S latest firmware blocks ability to put DD-WRT onto it and TPLINK blocks ability to rev back the firmware to earlier version. If I try to go into this procedure again with Archer C9v1 that is working and not broke but with latest firmware, when I launch putty it ask for admin logon and I don't know that password. But anyhow, thank you for taking the time to show this and in very clear detail.

  • Edwin Díaz December 6, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    Hi Richard thanks for all videos, I´ve a problem with my PC, the router has a serial connection, working correct, but can't stop the loop with CTRL & C, have any solution or reason? thanks for you help !

  • se7zer December 6, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    Hi! You just helped me unbrick my C9 V1. The mac address got differente but I dont mind. I didnt have a solder iron with me, so I just used black eletrical tape. At first, nothing happened in the putty console. Then I accidentally put my finger in the wires and it showed some output. Then with one hand I held the tape, and the other I typed the commands. It worked, thank you very much. You should put a ¨buy me a beer¨ link somewhere so we can donate.

  • sfratify December 6, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    Richard, first of all thanks for sharing, I am using a different router which is the Tenda AC18, the two routers share the same CFE version and the same chipset, so I am curious to know if this method could work on mine too, my question is: what do you have modified in the stock bin files?

  • Orlin Kunchev December 6, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    You are a lifesaver!!! I did it with a friend of mine, we both thank you very much, you saved us 150$!!! I had to reconnect the ground pin while it was booting to get it to hookup for some reason… thank you very much!!!

  • Bryan Mills December 6, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    Richard you saved my router, thanks for this video, couldn't have done it without you

  • Dragos Ghiban December 6, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    Richard I have one question: I have a Archer c9 V2; after I installed a ddwrt firmware everything is working fine except the fact that my internet led is orange instead of blue, but the router is working fine; how I can check it is bricked or not.thx.

  • Cellular Express December 6, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    I had to disconnect the ground momentarily as you mentioned, and was able to load the software.

  • toto007hun December 6, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    Hi thank you for the tutorial. I have the serial UART Putty working shows everything. But when i connect the LAN to the laptop it says no network connection. I set the static IP. When i want to upload the file I get the error message no such device.

  • Tudor Jador December 6, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    I have an Archer C9 v4 – where can I get the *.bin files for this? I have connected it and can flash your files, still after restart I get the same bricked state 🙁 thx!

    CFE version (r469350) based on BBP 1.0.37 for BCM947XX (32bit,SP,)
    Build Date: Fri Jul 22 09:27:37 UTC 2016 (leven@leven)
    Copyright (C) 2000-2008 Broadcom Corporation.

    Init Arena
    Init Devs.
    Boot partition size = 262144(0x40000)
    DDR Clock: 800 MHz
    Info: DDR frequency set from clkfreq=1000,*800*
    et0: Broadcom BCM47XX 10/100/1000 Mbps Ethernet Controller (r469350)
    CPU type 0x0: 1000MHz
    Tot mem: 131072 KBytes

    CFE mem: 0x00F00000 – 0x02F8E8C8 (34138312)
    Data: 0x00F50380 – 0x00F556E4 (21348)
    BSS: 0x00F556F0 – 0x00F8C8C8 (225752)
    Heap: 0x00F8C8C8 – 0x02F8C8C8 (33554432)
    Stack: 0x02F8C8C8 – 0x02F8E8C8 (8192)
    Text: 0x00F00000 – 0x00F4617C (287100)

  • Sandro Silva December 6, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    You saved ny router too. As many thanks is not good enough

  • Irvin Son December 6, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    I got this to work on my Archer C8!! I seriously doubted that it would work at all because the C8 is a different model, and I had a steady indicator lights rather than repeating bootloop light. At the step where you power on while holding ctrl-c in Putty, I initially got nothing in the Putty window. Almost gave up but then just for kicks I tried the tftp recovery procedure again and uploaded the recovery file. That seemed to spur some invisible activity on the router. When I happened to hit ctrl-c in Putty again, surprise surprise I got the CFE> prompt. From there I did the 2 flash commands. I didn't see any boot up activity in Putty on powering up again, but the router seemed to fire up with just the power light on. I was still sceptical, but tried connecting to the router via the browser and it worked. Wireless worked after setting up again. The only issues so far are the wireless and internet indicator lights don't come on anymore, but it seems to work fine otherwise. It's probably not perfect running C9 firmware on a C8, but a slightly imperfect router is better than a dead router anyday.
    Thanks again.

  • mark hyland December 6, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    Will this work for my Archer c9 as I have tried to recover using the other method using TFTP?

    It uploads the recovery bin and looks complete but when the router reboots, it stuck on the DD-WRT Control Panel and doesn't go any further. cant flash the second file from DD-WRT and now won't recover to TP-Links Firmware

  • Irvin Son December 6, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    Hey Richard, great video! I am going to attempt this on my bricked Archer C8 v1.0. Any idea where I can find the equivalent stock firmware files for the C8? The firmware on the tp-link site is a single bin file, and in your video you said it has to be 2 files: "12.bin" and "mtd3.bin". I searched but couldn't find such files for the C8. Also, do you think the firmware you used for the C9 will work on a C8?

  • Kateryna Turchyna December 6, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    Thank you, Richard! I finally worked for me! Thanks for your very detailed manual. You saved my router. The first time I connected it to PuttY it did not respond to Ctrl + C, but I was able to see the router's output. I re-soldered all the connections on the router and finally it worked!

  • iamkiwi December 6, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    has anyone had success doing this to a c9 v2 tp-link?

  • Leonardo Tassoni December 6, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    Hello friend, I tried the steps but the router does not connect in the putty. Do you know what it can be? thank you

  • LPG9000 ! December 6, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    good day I have c9 would this be same steps for non bricked c9 . I do have ddwrt on the router. but when ever try to do firmware upgrade on page just brings me back to ddwrt home page.

  • André Bazaglia December 6, 2018 at 4:03 pm


    When I turn my router on, I get all lights on. I'm able to send the recovery file using TFTP but the router do nothing. I'll try the serial method in this video. Mine is v2-

    – What are download links for v2?
    – Also, why two images (12.bin and mtd3.bin)?

    Thank you!

  • Marcel Hartman December 6, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    Wow, thanks again for all your effort in making this great tut!!!!! You saved my router

  • Alexandre Barelli December 6, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    hello … There´s another link to stock firmware download ? Thanks. This process is compatible with V3 hardware ?

  • Flavio Mauro December 6, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    Thank you, thank you very much for saving my C9 with this spetacular walkthrough.

  • YouTob December 6, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    Does this procedure work on the D9? thanks.

  • Sergio Bellinati December 6, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    Hello Richard Many Thanks foe your explanation. I´m Facing this problem in a Archer C8. Did you Know where I can find The 2 files stock firmware for My router. I have the rev 1 Hardware.

  • Vitali L December 6, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    Thanks for such detailed video! By any chance you know what the command for wrt54g2 router would be or how to find it out?

  • THE TOMAS ́S BUSINESS C.A. J-40264595-3 December 6, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    Tengo un wr841n y mis luces parpadean, el router prende y apaga continuamente por lo que no pedo usar bien PUTTY o HyperTerminal ¿que solución existe?

  • Eugene Cooper December 6, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    Wow Richard!  I'm glad this video is here–I just hope I never have to use it!

  • Cameron Lewis December 6, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    You seriously rock Richard. Many of these steps are available on the internet, but not all of them. You added ALL the steps needed, and with a thorough walkthrough to make sure even the dumbest among us can figure it out. Thanks a million for saving my router. 🙂

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